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Post by snowhawk on Dec 10, 2008 9:30:17 GMT -5
Basically as I have told others a decision has to be made by the members of the kinship. 1. What has passed has passed and you move on with kinship knowing that it will be hard because others have left, friends have left. And I fault no one at all for making the choice to leave. People play this game to have fun, to enjoy themselves and once you find yourself not doing that, you need to solve the problem as best as you feel is the right choice. 2. Fold the kinship, make a new one and continue on with the same members. Only thing I see with this is...you lose and almost Rank 9 status kinship over a name. But again, understandable. 3. Disband the kinship and everyone move their separate ways. Look I am not going to sugarcoat this, we all know something has happened that has caused a rift in the kinship. It happens all the time, whether it is this game, or another game. It happens. Pretending it doesn't is foolishness. So now with the hush hush, and not wanting to mention this and that, I simply ask those who are still here... What do you want? Yes there are some members who have left, and bless them on their travels. But the down and dirty part of it is...Now what? If leaving the kinship is something you need to do..then go for it, but at least tell someone you are leaving. Nick has popped on and off only to find more people have left. There is still a good core group here. But if you feel it's a sinking ship, awesome, but say something...anything. Right now ol' Nick is in limbo. So if anything choose. Stay in the kinship or leave. Do you want to create a new kinship? Do you want to tug on Superman's cap? Or piss in the wind? I won't lie I know some of you have already entertained offers from other kinships, if that is what you want...awesome, no one looks down, up or sideways at you. Just make a choice. Basically it comes down to. What do you as a member and a player want? And please feel free to be vocal in this thread, even to the ones who have left, let them know I want them to post here to. It's on baby!  Your loving birdy Snowhawk |
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Post by mort on Dec 10, 2008 10:22:00 GMT -5
I will go where Gilli and Dreg go cause they're my friends from creepside. If we do go somewhere else I'm gonna drag y'all with us |
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Post by nickel on Dec 10, 2008 11:51:20 GMT -5
The idea of forming a new kinship is something I have been considering. I think many people including myself will always connect the Helm with Thornspine. A new kin would be good for washing away the past and moving on. I would leave enough alts in the Helm to maintain the kinhouse but beyond that we put the Helm in the past and start something shiny and new.
A new name, new concept, new website, new everything. I'm willing to put in the work if you guys are.
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Post by snowhawk on Dec 10, 2008 13:56:30 GMT -5
Honestly I hate to see anyone leave, especially members that I know can add a great deal to the kinship. Life is where you find it, and sometimes it's found in the most obscure places.
So in all this, what is Snowhawk doing? Ask me ingame and I will be glad to let you know. In fact I would love to get a little fellow voice chat going to actually hear some of you and your feelings on this whole matter. Don't get me wrong I am not a "touchy feely" guy. But I do love to hear peoples opinions on matters and like to be able to see where everyone is standing on a matter instead of..."I am going because they are going"...I am interested as I am sure Nick is also in YOUR opinion.
Who the hell am I to be talking like this? Thinking anyone would care? No one, but I like Nick, and I hate the position he has been put in. But he is making the best of it. So for that I want to help him if I can.
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Post by nimlaeth on Dec 10, 2008 18:23:49 GMT -5
Snow, I think that's a great idea. It'd be great to fellow up and talk about it. I care what you think on this, and where everyone else is too. I'm not sure when I'll be on today because I'm working on a MONSTER of a paper, but whenever I am please shoot me a tell.
Personally I've been in a bit of a state about all this. Not gonna lie, it's thrown me in a tailspin.
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Post by nickel on Dec 10, 2008 19:45:07 GMT -5
Kinmeeting Thursday 7 EST. Discuss our current plans in voice. If you can't make it then please make your ideas heard through a post in the forums or with an email to me.
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Post by darkchronus on Dec 11, 2008 0:47:31 GMT -5
*blinks* Yeah, I've been out of the loop I guess. I logged on to see Thorn gone the other night and have pieced together bits and pieces. I'll try to be on tomorrow night, but I might not be able to. (I tend to be a bit random with my availability and playtimes)
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Post by gillibean on Dec 11, 2008 9:16:01 GMT -5
I will try to be there tonight but may have a conflict. I don't yet know what I will do, but I would love to keep as many of us together as possible. The most obvious thing would be to keep our Rank 9 Kinship and press onward - but for that people really need to be on-board and happy about the name under their characters...not sure if that is possible given everything atm. I'm very sad about the whole thing, but I am still a Helm(et) and will be until I hear what others want. To be honest, I just wish our founder would reconsider...  |
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Post by nimlaeth on Dec 11, 2008 10:32:26 GMT -5
I'm not sure about me and this meeting. It's a little tricky since I pretty officially quit the game last night.
If I can manage, schedule-wise and brain-wise, to haul myself out, I will. If emoNim carries the day then I wish you all the best <3
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Post by snowhawk on Dec 11, 2008 11:40:30 GMT -5
I agree with the point Gilli makes concerning keeping the kinship name.
The Helm name is not damaged here in the least bit to be honest. Yes people have been hurt who were in the kinship and I really hate that has happened. But to be honest, I don't really see how the name has been damaged. Yes Thorn has moved on, to where? I don't know and that is his business, but our business is to move on and to continue moving forward. So I am going to say I like the idea of keeping the kinship name......BUT....moving the site, changing the entire layout..whatever, I think would qualify as a "new thing"
Nim honestly if you quit the game, I will track you down and literally duct tape your ass to your computer chair and super glue the mic to your face. You are one of the key members of this kinship. You as well as a few others, have been in this kinship a very long time, much longer than I. I know, ok, I assume that you actually do love this game, love your chosen profession of Guardian. And to be honest if I do not hear, "TO THE KING", then I will curl up and perish from "TO THE KING" love. I would miss you, others would miss you and the impact you leave on us as a kinswoman and friend would be sorely missed. I know I speak for everyone in the kinship when I say, and I am getting alittle choked up here so forgive me...but..but...and this comes from the heart..."stfu and I will see you at the meeting". I know, I know...can you feel it...I can feel it...lotta love there....
I mean honestly it's like the last lemming is waiting to see what the lemming in front of him will do before making a decision to jump off the cliff or turn around and head back to the hole to get some strange. Look my friends, things are not as bleak as they appear. If you can make it to the meeting tonight, please come if only to voice your view and leave.
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Post by Kyria on Dec 11, 2008 14:28:10 GMT -5
/agree Birdy ('cept for the kinky duct tape stuff) Nim isn't allowed to leave! Nope!
As for the meeting tonight, Its prior to the kid's bedtime but might be able to swing it if I can.
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Post by gillibean on Dec 11, 2008 15:28:08 GMT -5
Lemmings FTW? heh.
I am still holding out hope that we can save this thing...I think as a group we can continue to have a lot of fun. But we can talk about it...
As for Nim, I only want you to do what's best for you. Selfishly, I want you to stay. TO THE KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING! Please reconsider.
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Post by Rose on Dec 11, 2008 19:57:40 GMT -5
I could be talked back pretty easy since the issue I had is now gone but... wasn't sure if I was wanted back. Nimmers don't leave we love ya! Adoring you goes beyond kinship and I'm sure I speak for the others who left as well... hope ya know that I don't understand why anyone would have problem with the kin name either wasn't like anyone was going out and being a jerk in public. No one is going around ewwww it's them helm people they are such pains  Don't forget peeps I'm here if you need me! <3 |
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Post by Kyria on Dec 11, 2008 21:36:22 GMT -5
OMG Rose! Heck yes you are welcome back!!! ANYTIME.. right now. this moment! We miss you! I think almost anyone who left would be welcomed back with open arms no discussions/questions/etc. needed. Get with Snow or Nick and come back home!
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Post by snowhawk on Dec 11, 2008 22:10:15 GMT -5
OMG yes Rose.....ok I am giddy...do I look giddy? I feel giddy? Like a little girl....  |
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